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I keep trying to figure out how to write about this. My writing so far has been really dark and I haven't kept it. But very basically I'll jump in from this meme I saw this morning.

"Don't be so happy about people in Texas dying in the flooding because some of the people in Texas who died in the flood didn't vote for Trump" with my emphasis.

What I want to say is this: if we believe that every life is important and should be protected to the best of our ability, then it doesn't matter who someone voted for (or where they live, or their ethnicity, or the political status of their location) because people dying is bad for whatever reason -- I'm kind of on team John Donne for my reasoning, but also have kind of a moral sense and also an ecological sense about it, with a good measure of slippery slopeness and needing hard lines thrown in.

If we don't think that every life is important, and instead rejoice when someone who voted the wrong way, or did a bad political thing or whatever dies and think it's a moral good, then we're being morally derelict by doing so little killing. By not going to rallies and passing out poisoned coffee, buy not going door to door and shooting people with the wrong flag, our duty is being forsaken.

Note I fully and completely do not believe the latter but a lot of people seem to build the foundation for it and then just kind of ignore the ramifications. But this is of course not the time to talk to people about it. This is the time for everyone to rejoice in early and preventable death as long as it's the right people.

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Date: 2025-07-07 02:54 am (UTC)
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I think this is where some people start out -- "I'm not going to feel bad for people who faced the direct consequences of their own bad choices" -- but then it slides into "anything bad that happens to a person who did a bad thing is fine and maybe even good" and then into collective punishment ideas like "Texas voted for Trump so all Texans deserve the worst". (I'll call these mindsets 1, 2, and 3 although they're certainly not the only ones.)

The meme greenstorm saw was cautioning people against moving from mindset 2 to 3, but failing to acknowledge that hey, mindset 2 is also pretty shitty.

I think I'm at about 1 (and I believe you are as well?) on my good days although if I were personally in a position to help I would *of course* pull the climate change denier out of the floodwaters. (It's different when it's personal or in-person, and not national and global scale stuff.)

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