Two Thoughts

[greenstorm]

1) I saw Ghostbusters the other day with Juggler. It was pretty cool. I need to re-watch 'The Last Unicorn'. Next time I'm really depressed, I need to continuously watch 'The Last Unicorn' and 'Kung Fu Hustle'.

1b) I read something to the effect of, 'relationships are about tolerating others' imperfections, and hoping they tolerate ours' the other day on the poly lj group. I think it's relatively accurate, even if I do revel in imperfections from time to time.

2) It's really weird/interesting to see how many people keep relationship-ending info, whether decisive or not, a secret. You may think this is written about you, and it isn't; there are a ton of weird things of this sort in my mental space lately, but the thing that triggered the realisation was remembering how a friend concealed it from me abotu two years back or so. Beginnings of relationships are announced with fanfare, but the endings? They feel too much like a failure, I guess. I've felt the desire to keep that sort of thing quiet, but never gone as far as deliberate concealment.

2b) This entry finished much later, cause I socialised with my new roommate for a bit.

Comments

[darthparadox.livejournal.com]

I never bothered announcing beginnings or endings of relationships much. I don't have any problem talking about them, but unless it comes up in conversation or something I'm uncomfortable just mentioning it. I dunno why...

[silverseastar.livejournal.com]

What if the ending is more of a transition? I suppose I'm meaning that when we embark on new relationships, there is an understanding, and agreement on that. It is spelled out as "the beginning". With an ending, there is often not an agreement, and it is a time of transition where it is uncertain where the final pieces will lay. It's hard to say where "the ending" actually lays for a time and that can perhpas be hard to talk about as there is nothing final for a long while.

This is of course from observation as I have never had a significant relationship breakup yet. Save with my father, but that's another unusual off-topic story.

The Last Unicorn

[http://users.livejournal.com/_greenwitch_/]

I still remember the *click* when I realized where your icon had come from :) The movie makes me cry every time I watch it - and I often sing songs from the soundtrack. Hmmmm, now that roomie's a Rogers management type, maybe I'll ask her to track down a copy for me. The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth both also fall into the category of 'Child-appropriate moves that I could watch over and over.'

[http://users.livejournal.com/_locke/]

I remember ending a relationship with an SO a long time ago. I told one of my friends at the time and he was shocked 'But.. but.. you can't break up. You guys are like a constant pillar of my world'

People view couples as a unit. Think of them that way so often it is often difficult for people to adjust.

More often than not you *liked* being part of that unit too. Their disapointment in the loss of the unit mirrors your own. It's hard to face.

[arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com]

Hi

I believe we should love eachother for our flaws, and that tolerance is a cop-out for those unnable to do so. I freaquently forget peoples names and can't spell, and I frequently begin paragraphs with "also".

Also, The Last Unicorn, A Princess Bride, Labyrinth, Willow, Dark Crystal, The Adventures of Baron Von...; these movies deserve to be watched all the time, as well as whenever depression reers its cliche head!

z.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I mention them, certainly... just like I mention all changes in my life, interesting anecdotes, etc.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

It's true that there is sometimes less of a hard line at the end. Still, at some point you know it's not there, anymore, right?

Re: The Last Unicorn

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I'd love to come watch Last Unicorn and do garden maintenance on Wednesday, if you're up for that?

[darthparadox.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Of course, I've mentioned the trouble I have even doing that. So...

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I know. I was Erin'n'Kynnin for so long that it's been very difficult to seperate myself, even to become something other than Erin-not-Kynnin.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I probably haven't given you my standard favourite Hellboy quote yet, which was something like, "we like each other for our virtues, but we love each other for our flaws." It crops up in my livejournal about every six months, because it's true that what I love most about people is absolutely the little idiosyncratic bits, the things that dig in and make me take notice-- sorta-flaws, individualities, whatever you wanna call them. I love the way people have patterns in their flaws, too-- the way Juggler says 'I'm just laying down for a moment' and I say 'are you sure' and he falls asleep, every time.

I don't, however, love everyone's flaws. I don't even love everyone, at least not most of the time. I absolutely don't expect people to love my flaws. And, I don't expect to love even my most-loved people's flaws every moment.

Love is great, but unless you're a saint tolerance is still necessary, and you know? I don't think that's a cop-out, I don't think loving everything is a desirable state. I used to, but no, not anymore. There's nothing human about liking everything all the time.

Labyrinth was so great. That & Dark Crystal need a re-watch on my end for sure. I never liked the live version of the Baron; I grew up on a cartoon version I've never managed to find again.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

*grin*

Your lj is a lot less announce-y than mine, for sure.

Re: The Last Unicorn

[http://users.livejournal.com/_greenwitch_/]

Wednesday is unfortunately the *only* day that is traditionally spoken for in my world. Adrian and I go to Surrey and play boardgames at the mall. Sounds geeky - but it's fun, and we get to 'try before we buy.' Tuesday is likely an evening with Dee, since she cancelled with me this week, and other than that my week is open.

[arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com]

Hi

I think that we agree! I also think that maybe cop-out was the wrong word: Clearly I'd be lying if I said that I love everyone for all their flaws all the time - so I'm guilty of having to tolerate people at times. I'd prefer to love everyone all the time, though, I don't see how that would be less human. Maybe there isn't anything in-human about liking or disliking things - I'd just prefer to only love (or to love hating, which is also fun).

Hellboy is by my favorite director! Guillermo delToro! I just watched Cronos, one of his earlier and more Spanish movies.

Labyrinth! Jennifer Connelly is chamring in Labyrinth, and great in later stuff - David Bowie is always sexy and good!

z.

[arrogant-gamer.livejournal.com]

Hi

Isn't there some kind of remake or sequel to Dark Crystal coming out?

z.

Re: The Last Unicorn

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

Hm. Er, Sat 10th?

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

One of your quirks is an excessive use of exclamation marks! This can be endearingly cute and enthusiastic, or way too 14-year-old-girlie for me! I will go for the first! It's better to like things than dislike them! I mock everyone, it's one of my own traits, so don't let this worry you!

I think that if almost all humans do a thing, it isn't human to not to it! I think it's very human to be irritated and tolerant some of the time! So I think loving everything is therefore inhuman! I wouldn't prefer to only love, because I love being irritable and grumpy sometimes! When I feel too much love, I feel like I'm going to fall apart into a million pieces and ascend to heaven on the spot! This makes normal life difficult!

I don't care about directors! However, I still want to rewatch Labyrinth!

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

Not going to that link. Not thinkin' about it.