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Got to accompany TOW on a trip to a friend's house while she got tied up and suspended frm the ceiling. I even got to help a bit, and to be in some pictures. It was fun. We may return next week for more pics and bring the strap-on -- every picture is better with a cock.

Definitely feeling better now than I was last night, although it got worse before it got better. Sleep was a good thing, as was being in the presence of people who love me and are just willing to be there snugglishly and not get offended when I act in icky ways. :/

Online snuggles were helpful too. :)

On to lunch, and to some stuff with my mom, and who knows after that?

Date: 2003-10-01 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estrellada.livejournal.com
It all depends. I'm an equal-opportunity ogler.

Sometimes I like my pics with cock, sometimes without.

Robert Mapplethorpe's cocks are great; few other photographers can give good cock. I don't believe in hiding cock, but I don't think that the cock is properly photographed, for the most part.

As for "cock" in the prosthetic sense...it all depends on how it's used. A great amount of the *rush* of dildos for me is in the subversive thrill of *having one*, *using one*, etc...Seeing one in a photospread being used in certain ways really gets to me.

I wonder if this is a cultural/aesthetic bias? (I often, also, wonder how much of aesthetics is cultural or no, there seem to be certain things about the human body and natural world that we are compelled to depict over and over...)

As for subject matter...Well, it all depends on my mood. I've been known to become as fixated on a headshot as a money-shot, or a bizarre pastiche. But I do know that I get off on moods and ideas as much as people or aesthetics. Ask me again, tommorow, though.
From: [identity profile] darthmaus.livejournal.com
I generally like my visual porn to be all-women. Or, involving only very specific men: overall, I prefer the aesthetics of the female body to the male body -- with few exceptions, and blessedly I seem to already be sleeping with the exceptions. Most male bodies are, to me, not offensive or anything but just don't turn me on. Erotic literature is a whole other story, since I can input my own extremely picky physical male fantasy without the author imposing theirs. I have found a small amount of gay male porn appealing, not enough data yet to explain that one (right, then, field trip to the back rooms of Tom's Video!!).

So, for visual porn involving actual men with actual non-detachable penises, suffice it to say that I like it home-grown ;-) Dicks in general don't do it for me, but specific dicks certainly do.

Women -- like, say, me and [livejournal.com profile] greenstorm ;-) -- with detachable cocks is of course *women*. And women look rather lovely in strap-ons. Re subversity -- I so like genderfuck that the idea of packing under a *dress* turns me on much more than packing in drag... hmmmm... when I first got my dildo and harness, I took it home and pranced around my apartment in it -- quite alone -- and it felt deliciously naughty. And I pretty much attacked the first person who came to my door ;-)

Date: 2003-10-02 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wik.livejournal.com
I guess I see cock as a possible additional element to an image, but I have difficulty with it as the predominant element. Like a salad. Tomato is good in it, but if the salad focuses on tomato, it's just not what you want in a salad.

As for a strap-on? Considering I've never experienced one personally, I find myself perfectly qualified to say that they seem much more interesting to be experienced than in an image. The anticipation of its use and the feeling of power that it seems to give seem to be their best elements.

I agree with the headshot vs. moneyshot thing, though. My stash includes a fair variety in that regard. Sometimes simple beauty will do it. Sometimes, it needs to be specifically about sex. Occasionally, it needs to be specifically about sex with *me*.

Date: 2003-10-02 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
I find myself perfectly qualified to say that they seem much more interesting to be experienced than in an image.

One of the things that really enthuses me about the strap-on in this case (I'm really not a big visual porn person to be big on the sex aspect of all this stuff) is that here's me in the picture, and here's me wearing an object that I like. So I have the image of the experience floating around for reference when I don't have a full-length mirror and mood lighting (room lights have nuthin' on black and white film).

Date: 2003-10-02 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wik.livejournal.com
Hmm. I guess I can see it from a preserving-a-memory angle. I hadn't quite thought of it that way. It's a little harder for me as a man to sort of develop an attachment to objects in that way. I guess I like the vibrator for variety, but that's not the same thing, I don't think.

Date: 2003-10-02 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Body enhancements. Think... Cybernetic Sivadian super-cop and you get an idea of the feeling. It's, "I've got neat toys hanging off my hips!"

Date: 2003-10-02 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wik.livejournal.com
Think... Cybernetic Sivadian super-cop
You've made such a beautiful thing seem so....dirty all of a sudden. *shivers*

Date: 2003-10-02 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
But... but... everything has its own kind of beauty, Wik. Even Sivadian Cyborg Super-Cops in black trenchcoats with their father's swords... did you see Underworld? It's the epitome of everything I've been rejecting on OS for years. Perfect in its twinkiness, in fact.

Date: 2003-10-02 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthmaus.livejournal.com
Yeah, that could be related to part of the reason why I don't like men in my porn unless I know them. It's not just the visual appeal of the female body -- it's that I can relate to it, and in fantasy I can put myself in its place. It's not so much the image itself as the situation it portrays that does it for me, and the easier I can relate and get myself into the image the more it does for me.

Come to think of it, yeah, the porn that turns me on the most has me in it.

Maus,
who has a different sort of wedding video than most people, perhaps

Date: 2003-10-02 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Do I get to see it sometime?

Date: 2003-10-02 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthmaus.livejournal.com
Could be, could be... ;-)

Date: 2003-10-02 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estrellada.livejournal.com
I have an old copy of Lezzie Smut with some cool shots involving dills....I think it's possibly appealing to me b/c of what they signify as well.

Sometimes simple beauty will do it. Sometimes, it needs to be specifically about sex. Occasionally, it needs to be specifically about sex with *me*.

I agree wholeheartedly, tho it's only been in the past few years that I've been able to get into the viewing "porn including me" bit. Making good, but I was too self-concious to really *look*.

Date: 2003-10-02 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
A great amount of the *rush* of dildos for me is in the subversive thrill of *having one*, *using one*...

...walking around sticking one into people's belly-buttons...

...doing that swingy thing when you wiggle your hips...

...boingieboingieboingie...

It's not so much a sex thing for me as just a terribly neat... not exactly subversive, maybe an ownership thing?

Date: 2003-10-02 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estrellada.livejournal.com
That's somewhere in there, but I get weird thrills and power bits. Akin to the feeling I get when I put lipstick on boys. Which ends up equating to a sex thing. It's all mixed up.

trangression, liminality, power, and sex. yum.

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