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Yargh.

This one I can't even share on lj, I don't think, because there's too much privacy protection involved. Suffice it to say that even if a decision is logically right, that does not prevent it from being very, very difficult emotionally. Suffice it to say also that while in general I have no problems with hypocrisy, there are some sources from which it would hit me pretty hard.

Erk. Yargh. Prurph. Mmph.

Is it right to only call friends when you need them because you're all confused by the way the world works? And not, you know, more often when happy stuff is happening?

Oh, well.

In real news (ie, stuff that's happened rather than stuff I'm worrying about having to think about later) I had a pretty good weekend. Saturday was oddly social, and involved waking up at the Juggler's, seeing Spiderman II with Chris, and going for tea with Alan (who'd just broken up with someone the night before, jeeze, this is the fall of relationship death).

So you could say I had two pretty conventional dates yesterday, though of course that would be ignoring context.

Poppies are out. I'm working rememberance day, but I think I'd like to take some time and meditate and pray and stuff on a day either this coming weekend or next week. I'm pretty emotionally unsettled right now; maybe it'll subside, though, since I only had the shock yesterday morning.

The thing about the poppies they sell now is this: they have black centres. Black symbolises death, ending, etc. They used to have green centres, which to me symbolised eternal life (evergreen), hope, continuance: stuff like that. I think this is a bad omen. You?

Did some hardcore work on Chia, ICly. I own a tax minion character, so I'm going to go around taking people's money. Should help get me back into the swing of things.

Date: 2004-11-09 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echo2oak.livejournal.com
I own a tax minion character, so I'm going to go around taking people's money.

*chuckle* Well my money making PC is out and about...could be good...could be bad.

I look forward to RP!

In the meantime *hugs and other supportive motions during rough times*

Date: 2004-11-11 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Ditto, you sound pretty stressy right now. :(

Caramel says hi, by the way.

Date: 2004-11-09 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breklor.livejournal.com
Is it right to only call friends when you need them because you're all confused by the way the world works? And not, you know, more often when happy stuff is happening?

Not if you expect to keep them on a long term basis. "I'm all confused by the way the world works" is only a defense for a short while; after that you are expected to start asking questions.

The thing about the poppies they sell now is this: they have black centres. Black symbolises death, ending, etc. They used to have green centres, which to me symbolised eternal life (evergreen), hope, continuance: stuff like that. I think this is a bad omen. You?

Black is not all that bad. Remember that metaphysically, death is not an absolute end, but a transformative process. And remember that we are supposed to be remembering the sacrifices made in our defense, and if it takes a bit of big scary black to give us the kick in the ass to really remember it, well, so be it.

Date: 2004-11-11 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Does the world get less confusing if you ask it more questions?

:>

I don't think that, after the last election, anyone who'll notice the change in poppy colours really needs to be reminded more strongly of war? Although I admit, I could stand being reminded more strongly of why it's a good thing. ;P

Date: 2004-11-11 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breklor.livejournal.com
The world gets more confusing, aye, but you get better able to navigate amidst the confusion... and to handle conflicting incoming data.

I recall the controversy over the colour change a couple of years ago but I don't recall the details...

er . . .ah . . .

Date: 2004-11-10 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] persephone-qd.livejournal.com
you asked if it is wrong to only call friends when you need them as opposed to calling them when happy stuff is happening. I take this to mean you want to read other people's moral evaluations of this?

If so, read on. If not, stop now.





Yes, greenstorm, it is morally wrong to only call friends when you want to get something from them. Friendship is two-way, not one way. Furthermore, morality aside, it will lead to your friends leaving you. People who never receive anything back viz. their gift of their time and a listening compassionate ear will stop being your friend as soon as they realize they are being used (unless they beleive they deserve to be used). I think if you are struggling with the morality of this question, that's a sign you should take some time and make stuff about other people and stop making it all about you.

Persephone, Mistress of The Honest and Usually-Unpopular Answer

Re: er . . .ah . . .

Date: 2004-11-11 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Hm. I think there may be a difference between sucky-stuff friendships (call each other when bad stuff is happening) and all-weather friendships (call when good and bad stuff is happening). I'm not sure the former is inherently unequal, and I think some pairings are better suited to it than they are the latter. Interesting thought.

I pretty much knew the answer when I asked, but thanks for honest feedback. :)

Date: 2004-11-10 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_greenwitch_/
Despite others' opinions, I have no problem being a sounding board if you need an ear (since we don't actually seem to coordinate to meet in the flesh). I think I've said before that you can call me if you need to talk. My internet is not yet hooked up at the house (we're saving to get wireless networking - next weekend??? - and until then only one IP address and a roomate doing extensive job-searching means I get my e-mail at work).

Hope things get better

Date: 2004-11-11 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenstorm.livejournal.com
Ahh, low-internet explains it. How is your free time now that you're moved? Still pretty tight with unpacking, or is there actually hope of coordinating? In-person's cooler.

There's also this place that makes amazing shakes/lassies in Vancouver (soy, if you want) that I discovered recently -- organic, too. They offer things like pistachio-and-rosewater shakes, I'm dying to drag someone there. :>

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