Mmmmmr.

[greenstorm]

Boy. Work. Food. Sauna. Sex. Bed.

It's so *good*.

There's nice snow outside.

Polynotes:
I'm poly because for me, variety and contrast lead to mindful appreciation that I don't have otherwise.
I love lots of people, and I like sex with a variety of people, sometimes those two groups overlap.
Practicality is the root of all happiness.
If you refuse to do bad relationships, you'll only have good relationships, one way or the other.

Comments

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

I do poly because, as I explained earlier "I'm simply incapable of emotional monogamy, and I got sick of pretending I was."

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

Emotional vs physical: discuss.

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

I loved my friends in ways that overlapped enough with the way I loved my lovers to have a hard time drawing a line between it: I can, and do "love more than one", without intention or design - it just happens. If I committed to only having an intense committed emotional relationship with one person, I'd have to renounce you and maydela and breklor and babboo (and I suppose for the sake of argument, _locke, not that that makes pragmatic differences in my life) and probably others in the future, and definitly others in the past.

I can do sexual fidelity (you will not cross this line of physical intimacy with others) just fine.

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

This is also a short and shallow list of 'people I love and how that works for me' - basically I don't like feeling like there needs to be a limit on my feelings for people - If I love them, I can admit to and experience love them, which doesn't have to mean fucking them.

I went around for a long time feeling like I couldn't do monogamy right because no matter how good I was at keeping to my SO's pants (which I was generally fairly accomplished at) my heart had lots of room in it.

[d-corvin.livejournal.com]

I really like those last lines. Awesome way to look at things.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

One does one's best.

[(Anonymous)]

Monogamy isn't natural or healthy, anyway. Just another of society's puritanical perversions.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I disagree totally. It can be healthy, and doubtless some find it natural. It's simply not my personal choice, for certain reasons that find good.

If you're going to make sweeping generalisations like this, I'd really prefer you did it with a name to the words.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm too lazy to register. Call me Bubba. First of all, we have to settle on a definition of monogamy. It isn't one mate at a time. It's one mate for life. Humans are biologically inclined toward polygyny. Before Western Perversion swept the globe, over three quarters of the world's societies were polygnous. Social monogamy was present, but that's altogether different. The evidence is out there. Look at the number of divorces, the multitude of infidelity cases. But let's look at some natural evidence as well.

Gorillas are big. Really big. Yet they have extremely tiny testicles. Why is this? Because they compete for mates with their bodies. Once a Silverback has claimed a harem it's safe to assume that only he will be copulating with those females.

Chimpanzees, on the other hand, are small. Yet they have evolved massive testicles. Why is this? Because they compete with their sperm. There is a great deal of sexual promiscuity amongst them, with females often being mated by a steady succession of males.

Where do humans fall? Somewhere in the middle. Humans are larger than chimps, smaller than gorillas. Their testicles are smaller than those of chimps, yet larger than those of gorillas.

What it all boils down to is that humans are naturally inclined to form core relationships, yet infidelity is perfectly natural.

There's a great deal more physical evidence, but I'll leave it at that. Pure monogamy isn't natural. But neither are flu vaccines. Whether or not it's healthy is up to debate. I guess it really depends on what you view as healthy. Is it healthier to be human, along with all the instinctive pitfalls therein, or is it healthier to be the polluting, ecologically destructive, warring, and rapidly overproducing creations of society?

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

Biological deterimism is reductionistic, and too often misinterpreted. Are you now going to argue that you can judge a human male's propensity for infidelity based on testicle size?

[(Anonymous)]

Not the individual, but the species as a whole. Among mammals, the ratio between body and testicle size is a good indicator of how many mates that particular life form will have.

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

you act like people have instincts, or something.

[(Anonymous)]

What do you think emotions are? I'll tell you: instincts buried beneath a lot of abstract fluff. On that note, abstract thought is about the only thing that separates humans from animals.

[estrellada.livejournal.com]

Wow, it's really interesting how we're not talking about the same things but using similar words. I think I'm done. I'll talk to you again when I know who you are.

[greenstorm.livejournal.com]

I don't sense any desire for discussion from this person, simply a search for one-upsmanship and grandiose statements. Probably not bothering is a good idea.

[(Anonymous)]

"you act like people have instincts, or something."

I assumed you were implying that humans do not have instincts. It is my opinion that they do. Humans have just quantified their instincts and given them names such as love and anger.

In a way I am searching for one-upsmanship. It so happens that I'm nearing the end of my debate class and I have a doozey of an argument to win before the semester's out. I was using you for counterarguments.

[breklor.livejournal.com]

Ah, but you see, you're an irritating and obnoxious little troll of the sort that is all too common on the Intryweeb, so you don't deserve any counterarguments.

[(Anonymous)]

Correction. If I were a troll I'd do something like this:

[(Anonymous)]

Dar

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[(Anonymous)]

Dar

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Darx1000

But I never did anything like that. Therefore I am not a troll and you, sir, are a lying whore.