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Jun. 9th, 2026 09:48 amI think when writing about Robs and the dogs I keep veering off a bit into laundry lists rather than capturing the ideas I'm trying for. It's hard to retain things until I have ability to write, after thinking of them.
But very generally, although obedience is nice, what I really want is us both trusting each other, and that means that if a situation demands it nothing is really off-limits. That's where learning appropriate barking is a great example: young dogs tend to fear-bark, but the goal isn't no barking but instead several different kinds of barking. There's a scare-away-specific-animals bark, a general my-territory deterrance bark used at appropriate times, a neighbourhood communication bark that assists with neighbourhood deterrance and specifically chains along the road (I love listening to this, though it's rare outside of fall season), a please-help bark, all that sort of thing.
It gets more complicated for something like a "sit" or "go home" when the dog senses a real threat. This isn't the same as not listening because they're overstimulated; it's assessing the situation and making an appropriate choice where I may not have full information, but also trusting my own information.
And to teach this kind of behaviour I need to do a lot of "hey, I see you doing something, are you sure?" and then check it out and weigh in either "yeah, great decision" or "that's silly" so the dog knows it. And then there's the occasional "absolutely not, that thing is nor an acceptable method" which I want eventually to be things like teeth on skin.
And doing that, paying that kind of attention, then clearly communicating "I see this, I've checked it out and taken you seriously and I'm not dismissing it, and this is my verdict" is fully exhausting over the course of a couple hours a day. This is where Thea or Solly should be stepping in and doing a bunch, but I need to get the muscovies into their own enclosure for it to work. He's really really really good with ignoring the birds now, much better than with the cats, but I don't want any accidents.
We have done several sedate "oh, there's Hazard, let's go say hi and touch noses and sniff butts" now, though and even had some success in "that's done, he doesn't want to play, let's go do something else now". I'm very proud and relieved. Little Bear is a different story, as is Siri-who-swiped-his-nose-on-his-bed-that-one-time.
I'm very interested to see how Solly and Robs interact once they're allowed to. She obviously defends her "lair" (under my pottery table that she's pretending is her create, and I'm agreeing as long as she keeps pretending appropriately) and has a nice tight radius on its defense and a very appropriate growl-first communication, it's over there from the path to the bedroom. And he accepts her going past his run on the way in and out, and they both watch each other interestedly but obediently go through in those situations. They don't appear to be building up animus to the other as intruders, but the proof will be in the pudding on July 2nd when Sol gets her x-rays.
Brain mush. Rest then plant corn.
But very generally, although obedience is nice, what I really want is us both trusting each other, and that means that if a situation demands it nothing is really off-limits. That's where learning appropriate barking is a great example: young dogs tend to fear-bark, but the goal isn't no barking but instead several different kinds of barking. There's a scare-away-specific-animals bark, a general my-territory deterrance bark used at appropriate times, a neighbourhood communication bark that assists with neighbourhood deterrance and specifically chains along the road (I love listening to this, though it's rare outside of fall season), a please-help bark, all that sort of thing.
It gets more complicated for something like a "sit" or "go home" when the dog senses a real threat. This isn't the same as not listening because they're overstimulated; it's assessing the situation and making an appropriate choice where I may not have full information, but also trusting my own information.
And to teach this kind of behaviour I need to do a lot of "hey, I see you doing something, are you sure?" and then check it out and weigh in either "yeah, great decision" or "that's silly" so the dog knows it. And then there's the occasional "absolutely not, that thing is nor an acceptable method" which I want eventually to be things like teeth on skin.
And doing that, paying that kind of attention, then clearly communicating "I see this, I've checked it out and taken you seriously and I'm not dismissing it, and this is my verdict" is fully exhausting over the course of a couple hours a day. This is where Thea or Solly should be stepping in and doing a bunch, but I need to get the muscovies into their own enclosure for it to work. He's really really really good with ignoring the birds now, much better than with the cats, but I don't want any accidents.
We have done several sedate "oh, there's Hazard, let's go say hi and touch noses and sniff butts" now, though and even had some success in "that's done, he doesn't want to play, let's go do something else now". I'm very proud and relieved. Little Bear is a different story, as is Siri-who-swiped-his-nose-on-his-bed-that-one-time.
I'm very interested to see how Solly and Robs interact once they're allowed to. She obviously defends her "lair" (under my pottery table that she's pretending is her create, and I'm agreeing as long as she keeps pretending appropriately) and has a nice tight radius on its defense and a very appropriate growl-first communication, it's over there from the path to the bedroom. And he accepts her going past his run on the way in and out, and they both watch each other interestedly but obediently go through in those situations. They don't appear to be building up animus to the other as intruders, but the proof will be in the pudding on July 2nd when Sol gets her x-rays.
Brain mush. Rest then plant corn.